Some Silk Weavers in London experienced hard times:
See article in Cockney Ancestor - Decline of Silk Trade (Summer 1983)
Some entries show that some Colliers suffered hardship particularly:
1. Joseph Collier who married Elizabeth Matthews
2. William Collier who married Elizabeth Beech and their 2 children:
3. William Collier who married Hannah Hood
The records were not easy to read being in writing and abbreviations used
Selected Poor Law Removal and Settlement Records
11 Nov 1847
1. Joseph Collier 17 Virginia Row aged 30 Weaver
Never out of this Parish
(Father William Collier 14 Virginia Row to be examined)
Married at Stepney 8.3.1839 to Elizabeth Matthews - see Note 3. below
Aged 30 & hath 2 children viz. Joseph 7 yrs & James 18 months
2. William Collier aged 57 Weaver
Married at Stepney 13.4.1811 to Elizabeth Beech his present wife
Aged 55 8 children by her Wm 35, Elizabeth 33, Joseph 30, James 28
Caroline 24, Sarah 20, George 15 and Henry 12
On 3 ? Jan 1816 he was passed from hence to Bishopsgate
Selected Poor Law Removal& Settlement Records 1698-1930
Wednesday 17 Nov 1847
3. William Collier 12 Virginia Row Aged 35 Weaver
6 yrs residence last June
Married at Shoreditch on 13 Feb 1836 to Hannah Hood his present wife aged 35
c. produced & birth ? by her 4 children
Sarah 11 yrs
Charlotte Elizabeth 9
Samuel 2 yrs
Wm James 1 yr
A note had been added:
Note 1
Joseph born on 30.5.1848
Writing diificult to read:
mother Elizabeth Collier reside in same house...........................
Selected Poor Law Removal& Settlement Records 1698-1930
Order of Removal
Wednesday Dec 16 1857
Joseph Collier 39 Wife Elizabeth 39
Children: Joseph 17 James 12 Eliza 7
Henry 4 Alfred 2
No 29 Mount, St. Francis Mount
He a Weaver Examined never certified
was born in Thomas St, Brick Lane
Married at St Mary's Church, Spitalfields 19 June 1848
(Certificate produced) - see Note 3. below
- see Examination of father William 1855 - Folio 22 -
Examination 19 yrs in Bethnal Green with person
he has (?) cert and never stepped out of his pauch for that time
Bishopsgate Without
A note has been added in the margin:
Note 2
Joseph born corner of New Nichol
James born in Kagun's (?) Row
Note 3.
The infomation above is curious. There are 2 different marriage dates:
Joseph Collier & Elizabeth Matthews
A. Marriage 18.3.1839 (registration of marriage/certificate not held)
Poor Law Records 1847
Joseph & Elizabeth Collier 30 (born c 1816/7)
Joseph 7 yrs (born c 1839/40)
James 18 months (born c 1846/7)
Dates Tie Up
B. Marriage 19.6.1848 (certificate held)
Poor Law Records 1857<
Joseph & Elizabeth 39 (born c 1817/8)
Joseph 17 (born c 1817/8)
James 12 (born 1844/5)
Dates do not tie up (see Appendix)
Colin Bower
11 June 2023
Links to:
Silk Weavers named Collier - Introduction & Index