The Bower & Collier Family History

Research by Colin Bower

Silk Weavers named Collier

Progress 2009 - To Date

Progress since the research in the early days has been as follows:

Progress 2009

Newsletters

The web-site generated a reasonable list of correspondents and for a time I circulated a regular newsletter but no real progress was made.

Newsletters

Visit to Spitalfields 3 June 2009

We made a very successful visit to Spitalfields where we were lucky that Christ Church, Spitalfields, the magnificent 18th Century church designed by Nicholas Hawksmoor, was open:

At that time it was planned that the 18th century organ at the church be refurbished:

but it does not stop concerts being organised at the church.

The original font is still in its symbolic position at the entrance to the church:

Progress 2010

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Progress 2011

Review of Information To Date

I undertook a review of the information that I had obtained to date and filled a number of gaps from searches on the internet.

As a result I moved Weavers James Collier & Samuel Collier from Family 12 to Family 9.

I reviewed the information held and made some searches where I had been unsuccessful before. A number of the gaps were filled and changes were made to many of the Family details.

I started to collate a new article, Things we wish we knew, which was not published until 2017! See Progress 2017 below:

Census Entries and Parish Records

I also typed up the details of Census entries and Parish Records that I had obtained:

Census Entries Obtained

Parish Records Obtained

Cockney Colliers - Newsletters

I resumed issuing Newsletters to correspondents interested in Cockney Colliers particularly Silk Weavers named Collier:

Cockney Colliers - Newsletters

Third Gathering of the Gaucheron/Kemp/Collier Family

I also attended the Third Gathering of the Gaucheron/Kemp/Collier Family and met a new descendant of James Collier.

As a result, it was established that James Collier was a Silk Weaver despite being described as a carpenter in Charles Collier's (second marriage) marriage certificate in 1863. It also meant that there was a link between Family 7 with Family 1 and possibly Family 4:

Visit to City of London 8 October 2011 including

- Visit to Guildhall Library
- The Third Gathering of the Gaucheron/Kemp/Collier
- Visits to Christ Church, Spitalfields and Shoreditch

The London Weavers Company 1600-1970

I purchased a secondhand copy (ex library) of the book, the London Weavers Company 1600-1970 by Alfred Plummer.

In the book are references to Francis Dearman, Silk Weaver, son of Francis Dearman, Silk Weaver, who married Maria Collier (daughter of Charles Collier) in 1856:

Francis Dearman, Silk Weaver

Elizabeth Emma Collier

I was contacted by a descendant by marriage of William, Silk Weaver, & Hannah (Hood) Collier. My correspondent's mother in law was Elizabeth Emma Collier born 1911 in Stepney and married William Edwin Edger at St Dunstan's Stepney in 1937.

Progress 2012

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Progress 2013

James Benjamin Collier

A Descendant of James Benjamin Collier - who was a witness at the marriage of Thomas William Collier and Rebecca Wicks (Family 4) - made contact.

His family tree stretches back to the Huguenots in France in the 17th Century.

It would be wonderful if "our" Colliers were part of the same family tree (as legend has suggested a family link to the Huguenots).

William Delves Collier

One of my correspondents sent me some new certificates and a summary of her research.

She found that the father of Matthew Collier was William Delves Collier and that William was a silk weaver and manufacturer (Weaver 201 in Family 2).

My correspondent is descended from Family 2 - Thomas & Mary Ann (Dean) Collier.

New Weavers

As I had the files out, I undertook some more research and in addition to William Delves Collier (Weaver 162), I identified more Silk Weavers:
- Eliza Collier (Weaver 223) per new entry in 1871 Census
- Thomas Collier (Weaver 260)
- Ann Collier (Weaver 277)
- Abraham Collier (Weaver 1800)

The Register of Silk Weavers named Collier has been updated:

Register of Sik Weavers named Collier

Two wills & a ferret!

In updating the website, I re-read Doreen Furby's article: "Furby – a French Connection?"

Furby - a French Connection?"

in which she states that the father of Thomas Collier who married Mary Kemp was William Collier, a "fringe, ferrit and velvet ribbon maker" (1799).

It occured to me that I had never looked for William and, as you do, I "googled" him! This lead to one of the biggest finds so far and real wealth in the Collier Family!

William Collier born 1741/2

I found a link to:

www.pyenet.co.nz/family trees

which gave William Collier of John Street, Spitalfields's death as 1808 and details of the bequests under his will to:

- his wife Phoebe
- his daughter Phoebe (house in Thomas Street)
- his eldest son William Delves Collier of the White Horse in Hare Street, Bethnal Green (houses in St John Street and Shacklewell Street and Carter Street in Bethnal Green)
- his daughter Ann Kemp (houses in Roadside, Whitechapel and Princes Court & John Street, Bethnal Green)
- his son Thomas Collier - who married Mary Kemp - (properties in & around Shacklewell Street and Shacklewell Court. Bethnal Green)

There has always (to me) been doubt about which were William & Phoebe's children and this makes it very clear and meant that the Register of Silk Wevers needed a drastic overhaul!

William's father William Collier born c 1710

In a Family History UK Genealogy Forum, a contributor asked for help in tracing more information about William Collier born 1710 who married Sarah Dealus on 4.3.1738 at St Dunstan, Stepney.

William Collier Senior was described in his 1789 will as a "Gentleman of Chester" born in London but died in Chester. He appears to have been a rich man and left virtually everything to his two sons - William & Matthew Collier.

In the Parish Records of St Leonards, Shoreditch are 2 christenings:

- William Collier bp 31.5.1741 (Parents William & Sarah Collier)
- Matthew Collier b 3.1.1741 bp 24.1.1742 (Parents William & Sarah Collier of Norton Falgate)

In the above website and another:

www.pennantpublishing.co.uk

it has been assumed/proved that William& Sarah Collier are the parents of William Collier who married Phoebe Booth on 3.9.1782 at St Leonard, Shoreditch.

I am happy to accept that William Delves Collier had a father, William (who married Phoebe) and grandfather William
(who married Sarah) as described. Using someone else's research means that I do not have to re-invent the wheel!

Progress 2014

Taking a View

After years of research, I decided to assume that James Collier born c 1765, married Elizabeth Mason.

As indicated in 2008 above, others had adopted this assumption. Since then we had proved that James was a Silk Weaver.

This meant that the information on James could be summarised as:

Weaver 101. (Gen. 1) James Collier, Weaver (1813-1839)
- born circa 1765
- married Elizabeth Mason 22.12.1785 St Matthews, Bethnal Green
- father of Charles Collier, Silk Weaver 103 per bp 4.9.1803 St Matthew's, Bethnal Green
- father of Joseph Collier, Silk Weaver 124 per bp 6.3.1808 St Matthew's, Bethnal Green
- Weaver of St John St per bp of daughter Jane at St Matthew, Bethnal Green 21.2.1813
- Silk Weaver per marriage of son Thomas Collier, Silk Weaver 172 (Widower) 16.9.1839 to Elizabeth Piper (Widow)
at St George in the East

 

Error in a Marriage Certificate

A correspondent wrote to query the groom's father' name in the marriage certificate dated 25.12.1853 in which Eleanor Collier married William Thwaites. A search of the Parish Records confirmed that William Thwaites' father was John Thwaites not Thomas Thwaites. A very unusual error (in my experience).

Eleanor Collier

The correspondent also pointed out that Eleanor's parents were William Collier and Charlotte Robelon and searches of Parish Records showed that the family had a settled existence then suffered a setback:

St Matthews, Bethnal Green

William Collier
married 3.8.1818
Charlotte Robelon
Witnesses/Parents (?) Wm & Ann Collier

Sarah Delves Collier born 26.9.1818 bp 18.10.1818
(Parents William Collier, Weaver of Brick Lane, & Charlotte)

Elinor Collier born 29.1.1820 bp 27.2.1820
(Parents William Collier, Weaver of St John St, & Charlotte)

William Collier born 18.2.1821 bp 18.3.1821
(Parents William Collier, Weaver of the Workhouse, & Charlotte)

Holywell Mount Independent, Shoreditch

Charlotte Collier born 6.5.1826 bp 18.8.1826
(Parents William Collier & Charlotte Roblean)

The Delves Connection

The use of the middle name Delves crops up in a number of Collier baptisms and marriages, for example Sarah Delves Collier (above) and:

St Matthews, Bethnal Green

Matthew Delves Collier born 11.8.1820 bp 3.9.1820
(Parents Matthew Collier, Weaver Hope Town & Elizabeth)

Christ Church, Spitalfields

William Delves Collier
married 9.11.1795
Eleanor Evitt
(Witnesses: Matthew Collier, Ann Collier)

For a fuller list, see The Delves Collection:

In 2013, I found that a William Delves Collier was the beneficiary of the will of William Collier who married Phoebe Booth and died in 2008 when he owned a house in St John Street, which is another possible link to William & Charlotte (above):

Progress 2015

On a rare visit to London, I met up with a first cousin from Australia and her husband and we went to the Town House in Fournier Street, Spitalfileds, a former weaver's house. The owners were in course of putting together a map of Spitalfields showing where residents with Huguenot names lived.

I was interested in Fashion Street where Heinrich/Henry Brecht was a colour manufacturer.

The map has since been published.

I spotted two interesting Huguenot entries in the map:

Isaac Godier who married Eliza Collier, daughter of Charles Collier, Silk Weaver was living in Fashion Street.

Louis Gaucheron was living in Tyssen Steet. Louis' granddaughter Mary Kemp married Thomas Collier.

Progress 2016

A correspondent gave me more information about William Collier (Family 9):

Stage 1

St Dunstan's, Stepney

William Collier
married 13.4.1811
Elizabeth Beech
Witnesses Samuel Beech, Jane Collier

St Mary's, Spital Square

Sarah Collier (father William Collier)
Married 10.5.1847
Frederick Gadderer

Selected Poor Law Removal and Settlement Records 11 Nov 1847

Joseph Collier 17 Virginia Row aged 30 Weaver
(Father William Collier 14 Virginia Row to be examined)
Married 8.3.1839 to Elizabeth Matthews
Aged 30 2 children Joseph 7 & James 18 months

William Collier aged 57 Weaver
Married 13.4.1811 to Elizabeth Beech
Aged 55 8 children Elizabeth 33 Joseph 30 James 28
Caroline 24 Sarah 20 George 15 Henry 12

On 3 Jan 1816 he was passed from hence to Bishopsgate

Selected Poor Law Removal & Settlement Records 1698-1930

Order of Removal

Wednesday Dec 16 1857

Joseph Collier 39 Wife Elizabeth 39
Children: Joseph 17 James 12 Eliza 7
Henry 4 Alfred 2
No 29 Mount St, Francis (?) Mount
He a Weaver Examined never certified (?)
was born in Thomas St, Brick Lane
Married at St Mary's Church, Spitalfields 19 June 1848
(Certificate produced)
- see Examination of father William 1855 - Folio 22 -
Examination 19 (?) in Bethnal Green with person
he has (?) cert and never stepped out of his pauch for that time

Bishopsgate Without

NB A note has been added in the margin:
Joseph born corner of New Nichol
James born in Kagun's (?) Row

1861 Census

13/14 Mead Street Bethnal Green

Frederick Gadderer (34) Wood Chopper born Hackney
Sarah (33?) Wood Chopper born Spitalfields
Sarah (16) Scholar born Bethnal Green
Frederick  (13) ditto
Caroline (3) ditto
Elizabeth (1) born Bethnal Green
William Collier (70) Silk Weaver born Spitalfields
Elizabeth (68) Silk Weaver born Bethnal Green

I had not proved that William Collier had married Elizabeth Beech,
that the couple were staying with their daughter Sarah in 1861 and
Joseph (previously Family 10) was their son.

Stage 2

William Collier & Elizbeth Beech had 11 children including:

- William Collier who was born 14.2.1812 and was bp 10.3.1812

- Joseph Collier who was born 13.7.1818 and was bop 8.3.1818

- James Collier who was born 10.12.1820 and was bp 16.4.1821

During this time the family lived at New Inn Yard and all the bp took place at St Leonards, Shoreditch.

With this additional information,it appeared that this was the same James Collier who married Sophia Thorogood at Christ Church, Whitechapel on 27.3.1841.(see Note below)

This gave us more information about William Collier Weaver 940, Family 9.

Therefore Family 12 was disbanded and the additional information transfered to Family 9.

Note:

The additional information obtained about James Collier was:

1841 Census

7 Harriet Place (Parish Church, Spitalfields)

Sophia Thorogood (age 16)staying with mother & family
(married James Collier 1842 who gave his address as 4 Harriet Place

1851 Census

57 Charlotte St, Islington (Finsbury)

James Collier (30) Feather Dresser born Bethnal Green
Sophia (25) Tailoress born St George in the East
Caroline Collier (1) born Whitechapel

1861 Census

4 Princes St, Whitechapel

James Collier (40) Marine Store Dealer
Sarah Collier (35)
5 Children including Caroline (12)
All born London, Middlesex

Progress 2017

I am sure that there are still Silk Weavers named Collier we are yet to find, which may mean that some of the Collier Silk Weavers Families in the Register of Families may link up in some way.

I have summarised what we have found out and things we wish we knew,under each family:

Progress generally has been summarised in What's New?

What's New?

I have reached some conclusions to date:

Conclusions

Colin Bower
23 January 2017

Links to:

Silk Weavers named Collier - Introduction & Index

Silk Weavers named Collier - The Story So Far

Collier Family - Progress to Date

 
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