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From Government Guidelines 13 May
“...as well as exercise, people can now also spend time outdoors subject to: not meeting up with any more than one person from outside your household....”. “It is still not permitted to leave your house to visit friends and family in their home.
The Government is looking at how to facilitate greater contact with close family or friends....”

Debate 11E Do you think that these regulations are workable and enforceable?

For Debate 11E please vote Yes, No or Undecided on each and let me have a sentence or two on why you have voted the way you have.

Please let me have your answers by Friday following which I will add them to my website and circulate summaries of your feedback next Wednesday.

Answers

Workable

Yes.................6
No.....................1
Undecided.............1

Enforceable

Yes..............
No....................7
Undecided

Comments/Views

1.No. Possibly workable but unlikely to be enforceable due to lack of policing.

2. No, they are not enforceable, therefore they are not workable.

People don’t like being told what to do,

the Police don’t have sufficient numbers to identify offenders, and

even if they did they have been told not to be heavy–handed, as it upsets people.

3. . Yes the changes are workable, but not enforceable

because the Police have rightly backed down from their over-zealous, heavy-handed approach.

4. The hot weather during the last few days and especially today (Wednesday) prove that the two metre rule is Not enforceable.

Remains to be seen if there is another outbreak in a few days time. We have to hope not. Probably people still wouldn’t listen if there is.

5.Workable

Yes - in theory - people could exercise more than once a day (previously once), arrange to meet up with one person outdoors and avoid meeting up in someone's "home".

In practice you are likely to meet up with more than one person outdoors (couples would have been better) and many people are meeting up in someone's garden.

Common sense tells you that both are OK if you social distance

Unfortunately the Government's rules have not caught up with what many have been doing already

Enforceable

No - Meeting up - impossible to enforce - would be thousands of offences - could claim that the people you are with are from the same household!

Could fine a few people and hope it puts others off

If it went to court, "we just bumped into each other m'Lud"

No - Visiting people - unless you follow cars and/or know how many cars are usually on a driveway

Instances of the public spying and whistle-blowing could backfire!

Would be interesting if it went to court. Someone could claim that a garden is outdoors, different from a home and perfectly safe

6-7. They are workable but not enforceable and the “instructions” are a bit muddled.

8. Rules workable but we are policed by consent!

9. Yes, but not enforceable

Review of Week

The Government's guidance of 13 May, listed in the question, could work in theory.

The idea was to try to keep "house to house" transmission down to a minimum.

Unfortunately much of the public have ignored them for various reasons:

- the lockdown is over
- the transmission risk is low
- they have stopped listening
- they haven't taken any notice
- the rules are illogical
- you can meet up with friends and family so long as you social-distance (i.e. common sense)

Basic lesson for the Government? You need to have a good message to be communicated and two good communicators (sender and receiver) for it to work.

Interestingly, one of the doctors/scientists pointed out this week that, if you meet up with just one person outdoors, there is a house to house transmission risk. You don;t have to go to the person's house.

Doesn't bode well for a football match!

Colin Bower
23 May 2020

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